Football: Is the England Team Overly Dependent on Stats and Data Analysis?

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jim
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Football: Is the England Team Overly Dependent on Stats and Data Analysis?

Post by jim »

Ey up, lads and lasses,

I just need to get this off me chest about the England football team this Euros. Honestly, they’re relying way too much on them scientists analysing every pointless minute detail instead of looking at the bigger picture. It’s driving me mad!

Take Jack Grealish, for instance. Yeah, he might not have had the greatest season statistically, but stats don't account for what he brings to the game. We need him this Euros because he mixes things up when we need it most. He draws in penalties and creates opportunities where there seem to be none. Instead, Southgate and his team of numpty scouts have picked a ridiculous squad, relying too much on stats and 'wokeness' rather than actual football skills.

I even know one of the assistant scouts for England. She's a complete moron with no real qualifications, just got into the job to meet footballers. Good luck to her, but she’s no WAG! Just a deluded nerd girl who thinks she’s better looking than she actually is.

And what’s with this obsession with meeting diversity quotas? Last game, they subbed Harry Kane, who scored against Denmark, for an unheard-of young black lad who did nowt to help. We ended up drawing 1-1 because Southgate took off his best player just to tick some boxes. It’s doing my head in!

What do you lot think? Post below and let’s get this debated!

Cheers!
Pablo
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Re: Football: Is the England Team Overly Dependent on Stats and Data Analysis?

Post by Pablo »

Gotta say, I’m with you on this one. It’s like they’ve forgotten what proper football’s about. Stats are alright for some things, but you can’t measure heart and grit with numbers, can you? Grealish has got what the team needs and it’s mental hes been left out of the team. Southgate needs to get his head out of the spreadsheets and actually watch the matches. 🙄
Mojo
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Post by Mojo »

Grealish is unpredictable, but always exciting. We need more of that spirit. Southgate's too cautious, and it’s hurting the team. Bring back the flair!
Gary
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Post by Gary »

The diversity quotas are well-meaning, but when it starts impacting performance, it’s an issue. Football should be about the best players on the pitch, no matter who they are. Southgate’s got his priorities mixed up – needs to focus on winning, not just ticking boxes.
dave33
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Post by dave33 »

Totally understand where you're coming from. It’s frustrating to see talent like Grealish being sidelined. Southgate seems more interested in keeping up appearances with woke Gary Lineker than actually winning games. The use science and stats is fine, but it shouldn’t overshadow raw talent and instinct. Balance is key!
Damon
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Post by Damon »

Yeah, it is so frustrating when you see players with a lot of heart and creativity, like Grealish, being sidelined for pure data-driven decisions. Back in my day, the game was all about instinct and flair. Remember the likes of Gascoigne? You think anyone was checking his stats every game? Nah, they just let him do his thing on the pitch.

I reckon these sport scientists and data analysts are just making things worse. Even big tech companies like Google are getting involved, partnering up with the FA to push all this analytics nonsense. It’s making our national team look more like a lab experiment than a bunch of lads playing football. It’s just so daft. I get that numbers can help, but the heart of the game is being lost in all this statistical rubbish.

And about that diversity quota, it’s a tricky one. I’m all for giving young players a chance, but not at the expense of our top performers. Kane shouldn’t be subbed just to tick a box. We need to pick the best team to win, plain and simple. I’m all ears if someone can convince me otherwise, but I doubt it.
Karen
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Post by Karen »

Damon wrote: June 21st, 2024 Yeah, it is so frustrating when you see players with a lot of heart and creativity, like Grealish, being sidelined for pure data-driven decisions. Back in my day, the game was all about instinct and flair. Remember the likes of Gascoigne? You think anyone was checking his stats every game? Nah, they just let him do his thing on the pitch.

I reckon these sport scientists and data analysts are just making things worse. Even big tech companies like Google are getting involved, partnering up with the FA to push all this analytics nonsense. It’s making our national team look more like a lab experiment than a bunch of lads playing football. It’s just so daft. I get that numbers can help, but the heart of the game is being lost in all this statistical rubbish.

And about that diversity quota, it’s a tricky one. I’m all for giving young players a chance, but not at the expense of our top performers. Kane shouldn’t be subbed just to tick a box. We need to pick the best team to win, plain and simple. I’m all ears if someone can convince me otherwise, but I doubt it.
Oi Damon, I have to disagree with you a bit there. While I do think that the heart and soul of football shouldn’t be lost in data, the world has moved on. The science behind the game can be a powerful tool if used correctly. It’s not about replacing instinct, it’s about enhancing it.

But I do agree that Southgate’s been over-relying on stats. Grealish brings something special to the game that numbers can’t capture. And yeah, there’s a difference between giving young players a chance and making illogical substitutions just for the sake of it. We need a balance.
Stewartz
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Post by Stewartz »

Back in the day, we didn’t need scientists to tell us who was good. We could see it with our own eyes. And while inclusivity is important, it should never come at the cost of the team’s success. We need to find a middle ground where we respect the tradition of the game while using modern tools wisely, not overwhelmingly.

Jack Grealish deserves to be on that pitch, not because of his stats, but because of his impact on the game. Let’s get back to letting players play and not data dictating every move.
Ian
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Post by Ian »

I see where you're coming from, OP. I do think there's a place for statistical analysis in football – it can help identify trends and weaknesses that might not be obvious to the naked eye. But I agree it shouldn't replace the gut feel and experience of seasoned managers.

As for the diversity quotas, I’ve got mixed feelings. On one hand, I understand the need to ensure opportunities are given to everyone, regardless of their background. Football should be inclusive. But on the other hand, positive discrimination is still discrimination, no two ways about it. Football should be about skill, not ticking boxes. If the best players happen to be white, black, Asian, or whatever, they should be picked on merit, not on some misguided attempt to look diverse.

We need to focus on winning, and that means prioritizing talent over quotas. Anything else is just undermining the integrity of the game and could cost us victories.
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